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joshgalassi23 - May 22, 2008 10:50 PM (GMT)
DO IT HERE.

3 HOURS!!!!

Ashley - May 23, 2008 12:13 AM (GMT)
47 minutes!!! :claps:

Grey's Fan - May 23, 2008 03:44 AM (GMT)
What is the song that was is playing on top of the montage where everyone is kissing each other near the end???
It sounds kind of like Amy Winehouse, but not.
OH MY GOD!! I need to know!

PS. SO GOOD!!

Cait - May 23, 2008 04:07 AM (GMT)
I AM DYING. I AM DYING FROM ALL THE EMOTIONS RUNNING THROUGH MY MIND.

DYING.

I called Lexie and George. I win. That's first. I totally won the left field kiss guess!

THANK YOU LORD they SAVED one! They did it! LUCKY #13! THEY DID IT!!!!!! I am for ONCE so so happy for Mer AND Der... TOGETHER. I can't... I am astounded and if anyone was to live, it was that girl. Although I am sorry Jeremy died... that was so sad. I cried. And Mer at the end... with the candles... That was so sweet and amazing and... GO MER! And her figuiring out what her issues was AMAZING. I can't believe it. I am so happy. But her mom thing... Hit too close to home and it really is making me think and I just don't want to think about it.

Bailey... amazing. She went emotional, but I bought it. I had it. Her using Star Wars logic, effing GENIUS. I loved it. I loved loved loved it. And she said she was going back to HER HUSBAND?! HER HUSBAND! YES!

GO CRISTINA. YES. Teaching Lexie... I was so proud. Telling Hahn "Shut up and let me work!" was... amazing. I was screaming "IN YOUR FACE!!!!!" so loud. She did it, she won! And Chief was on her side, and maybe now Cristina can get the respect she deserved. And when Cristina acknowledged Burke... OMG GROWTH, can you say GROWTH?!

Lexie was amazingly adorable. Reading everyone's files... I have to say that was hilarious and very inciteful; I liked hearing about everyone's little secrets. Testicular cancer? Oh Alex.

Alex.... Alex. I can't even... Alex. :( First... I wanted to kill him. I wanted to hurt him when he called Izzie a stupid bitch. A STUPID BITCH?! She was TRYING to help, and HAS been trying, and he SAYS THAT?! But then... when he was talking about her mom... I lost it. I couldn't handle it. "It's just a bad patch, I'll feed her, I'll change her, I'll bathe her until she's over the bad patch! I can take care of her, I did it for my mom, I could do it for her..." Oh Alex! It hit FAR too close to home and I admit I was bawling. I said it. Alex made me CRY. I had to leave the room. It was... too much. And him crying... and talking to Rebecca... and her saying she was trying to be that person he could depend on... It really was a lot for him and I forgive him for his past indescepencies. Then him crying with Izzie... Pleading... "Please... please..." Like Izzie did with Denny... I didn't want them to kiss. I didn't want them to, and they did. But he needs her. He needs her so bad and it is heartbreaking.

Izzie... I am so proud. Nothing she has done or ever will do will tarnish what she's done. She took charge. She did it. She stood up to Alex, was there for him despite the name calling, the doubts on her abilities, the physical threats (You'd hit a woman? -- If I have to!) everything... And she got Rebecca help. Now she has the clinic. It's hers... And she earned it.

George... Oh George! ONE POINT?! ONE POINT! I am so glad he stuckup for himself... And he gets to take the test again! :D And be a resident with the rest of them!!!! YAY!

Callie and Hahn... Oh yes. :D It is done.

And way to go Mark for helping Callie realize what she really wanted.

The Chief is going back to his wife!! :D YAY! :D

I feel so bad for Rose. When Derek goes "I keep failing her." And she says, in the most... awful, hurt voice: "Them. You mean you failed them, not her." :( Rose!

When whatserface (surviving tumor girl) says to Derek "Do not kill him." I laughed. And then Jeremy died, and I cried. :( It was cute how Mer/Der worked together to let them have their alone time. "We're pimps!" How special... And Mer lying to her parents... Hilarious.

Everyone is winning right now... Except Alex... but everyone else.

joshgalassi23 - May 23, 2008 04:07 AM (GMT)
I know I would love to know too! I actually REALLY loved the end to this episode. I thought for sure I would be disappointed if it was the MerDer kiss that was meant to be amazing, but I loved it. It's like....what someone would do after not being able to kiss for friggin' ages. I like happy MerDer now!!!

AND CALLIE/HAUHN. I have been scared of this relationship, but after seeing Callie in the episode and the look she gave Hauhn after that kiss. OMG. It said so much...I don't even know. GREAT!

And GEXIE! OK what was with the look Lexie gave George after the peck? Does she have feelings?????? OMFG YESSSSSSSS I SO HOPE SO! But then George was all "YEAH! LETS GET THE TEQUILA!" so I'm like "DON'T F*CK IT UP!!!"

I'm glad at least a COUPLE of the patients actually survived this episode. I was gonna be pissed if they died. They've been killing off like every patient they've had lately, lol. I loved the cases. Very intriguing.

AND the Izzie/Alex ahhh so good! That was so sad when Alex was talking about his mom about the hospital and how he has been through this. :( Saddest part of the ep for me.

Wow, this finale soooo trumps last seasons! PEOPLE! THEY ARE ACTUALLY. HAPPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! OK POst more later!


Cait - May 23, 2008 04:09 AM (GMT)
I am amazed at the Season finale ending happy for the majority of people. AMAZED.

joshgalassi23 - May 23, 2008 04:11 AM (GMT)
I know! I mean, with the exception of Alex - but DAMN. It's about time they gave that dude some emotions!

Cait - May 23, 2008 04:14 AM (GMT)
It was all a bit too much! All of that... poor Alex! I can't believe... It was just too much. Is this his "changing point"? Is he gonna pull a Izzie and be this stranger now? I'm worried for him, I am. It really sucks big time. :(

joshgalassi23 - May 23, 2008 04:18 AM (GMT)
I have a feeling Alex is the type of character that won't let his guard down for too long. I think after a night of being emo and crying, he will go back to his usual self...We'll see!

McBored - May 23, 2008 04:20 AM (GMT)
HOO-FREAKING-RAH! :D :D

I just watched the finale, and I have to tpe quick because I have school tomorrow. So beware of typos.

AND SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL WAITING.

{{{ehh. screw it. Ill just tell my teachers that I stood up all night watching Grey's Anatomy :P }}}

First thought- I thought it was great for Bailey to give away the clinic to Izzie. That was pretty much her baby, and as Izzie says, the clinic is her happy place. Biley's delegating in a way that the chief. er, tried to do. How awesome is that! Izzie grew so mch these past...post strike episodes mostly, but she did, and if you notice, Bailey has been pushing her to do so the whole time. She's probably been thinking abbout it for a while.

How crazy was that cement thing? :blink: :blink: I mean, not as explosive as other Grey's events, but it's crazy to think that you could be stuck in cement ike that .That kid had me in near tears. You know one thing I love about Callie? The fact that she doesn't really take stupidity from those stupid patient visitors. Like with that fitness guy earlier in the season, or the woman trying to win a dress. That is just awesome. Good for her. :) May not be the most subtle, but still awesome.

CHRISTINA FINALLY GOT HERS!!!!!!!

she got her groove back. She taught Lexie, she taught her well, yet still staying true to Christina. ANd she got Hahn. SHE FINALLLLYYYYYY GOT HAHN!!! I mean, hahn is Hahn, but she's been and uber Bitch to Christina. That's right. An uberbitch. Hahn got called out on her crap, and Christina got to sho off what she an really do, finally. And she got to show off what she learned from Burke. May I have a collective, "BURN!!"? Dr. Hahn.....user posted image
BURN!!!!!!!!


I'm sorry, I'm coming around to Hahn, maybe, I don't know. But she deserves that Burn. Even the chief saw it. Come on.

Alex and Ava/ Rebecca, that was just...so sad. I understand more why she did what she did in these past episodes. And alex...at first, when he called Izzie a Stupid Bitch, I was completely yelling at the screen. I was so upset with him. But today was a shell opening for Alex. When your reminded of a painful memory like he was, completely in the flesh reminder, how you act changes. Once that wound gets opened, it can all come flooding out and I think that's what happened. It wasn't right of him, but he was convince that he could take care of her. Felt so damn heartbroken over Alex. Putting someone you love in a psychiatric hospital its one of the hardest things you can do, having to deal with mental ill ness is so hard, i know. . And Alex having to take care of his mother also? They're revealing more of his past. It's good.

George. I can't say that I liked the outcome of that. First off, it's a bit of a stretch to think that The chief could bend rules for him so far from the actual tes. Circumstances were unfair for him; he lwas really worried about Meredith, who the Chief bent the rules for the day of the test. I'd say that people would be upset knowing George got to take it again, the Chief's Intern or whatever. George is right, but rules can't just be broken that easily...can they?

And Gexie? HE SLEPT WITH HER SISTER. GEORGE....OUR CUTE LITTLE GEORGIE, IS OFFICIALLY A MAN-WHORE!!!! When he didn't actually kiss her in a kiss her way...but still. He slept with her sister. Eww. That's kinda slutty. If he leads her on to the point where she has to tell him her feelings, then he is "shocked" but decides that he could feel the same way...I'll scream. Doesn't that storyline sound way too damn familiar! I love Lexie though. Every episode I love her character more and more. She's just great...a character I don't really get frustrated with.

Callie/Hahn/Mark. Hmm.....That storyline...Has come to the point where Mark the manwhore has been eliminated, leaving the two ladies. Callie has finally come to terms with it. and guessing by the way she was responding, so had Hahn. Erica, Whatever--for a while. She's still not on my good side. xxwonders whether Maggie is still breathing.xx

Alex and Izzie's kiss was so sad. I don't think I've ever seen Alex really cry, and everything was out in the open and he was exposed and it was a mess. But still, said, satisfying for those lexzie fans. I might be one of them, I dunno... B) Gotta see what happens.Not to say I didn't see it coming. Gosh this is getting uberlong.

and.. eh... also...
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Or what I assume to be her breakthrough. Go Mer! Ok, with all the sad moments, I nearly was in tears when I saw Meredith with all of those candles. It's Like, HUGE!!! She's finally got it! Go Mer! It was a bit lighthearted with MerDer at the beginning. They were freakiling HILARIOUS with the sex! It was really dark there for a second also, considering she just revealed her mother tried to kill herself. but her breakthrough was just so great! I'm so happy for her.

I actually ran through the house screaming "MEredith finally had her breakthrough" during the commercial.

I'm gonna miss the therapist though.

OK,.....I'm assuming the GREAT KISS was alex-Izzie...but I'm not sure. i mean, we pretty much predicted all of the kisses. And all those kisses were great, butI'm not sure which one we didn't see coming. Izzie-alex more than likely. anyway, I loved this eppy!

Cait - May 23, 2008 04:20 AM (GMT)
I hope it's that way! If they broke him... Oh lord! I want to see what this holds for him and Izzie. Could be very good. Could be he reverts back to jerkdom. IDK. This is probably the first time the show has touched me on such a very personal matter, so I'm vested in how this plays out. From Rebecca being all crazy to Alex's mom and stuff... it was just like my life was playing on the TV screen and I wanted it to stop very badly.

Cait - May 23, 2008 04:23 AM (GMT)
I second all of Jen's post!

joshgalassi23 - May 23, 2008 04:23 AM (GMT)
AHAHAHA MCBORED! You are so right about MER. Fucking FINALLY!!!

McEline - May 23, 2008 06:14 AM (GMT)
OMG I can't wait to freaking see this! and now they stopped broadcasting here for a while (and I don't know how long that while is going to be) so I may go see it on the internet... tonight or something if I can find it!

joshgalassi23 - May 23, 2008 06:27 AM (GMT)
Oh it was great, you'll love it!

Cait - May 23, 2008 08:42 AM (GMT)
Can anyone get screencaps of the Alex/Izzie-ness at the end? My friggin computer is a POS and I hate it.

Mactilda - May 23, 2008 12:06 PM (GMT)
First of all: Notice my banner change???? I LOVE George again!!!!!! Well I haven't forgiven him or anything he's just starting to act like tha great guy he ones was.
Poor Lexie has a crush - I think. I don't think George sees her that way - yet, but I think he CAN like her, in time. I was just so happy about his part this epi :)
Callie's part: Well I liked how she wasn't acting like a b*tch towards Mark or Cristina. I still have BIG troubles excepting Hahn as her partner (would be the same with a man that acted the same way ) She's just not a nice person - I can't even see it "deep down inside" but OK she's in therapy HOPEFULLY she'll do a Meredith like breakthrough.

Mer: Oh Meredith. Dark and twisty Meredith. I LOVE how she has risen!
Der: Well pooor Rose, but he did the right thing.

Cristina: I was so happy when she was teaching Lexie. And in the OR when she did her thing :)

Alex: Poor Alex. At first I was angry at him b/c he should know better, but when he told Izzie about his mother I felt so sorry for him. I didn't want them to kiss, but I can see why it ended that way.

All in all a GOOD episode!

McBored - May 23, 2008 01:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mactilda @ May 23 2008, 08:06 AM)
First of all: Notice my banner change???? I LOVE George again!!!!!! Well I haven't forgiven him or anything he's just starting to act like tha great guy he ones was.

W00T!!! Georgie finally won back Mactilda! All is right in the world.... :D

Did anyone else think, that after Derek walked away to clear things with Rose and told Mer to wait for him, that the writer's were gonna do something really stupid and have him like, hit with a car or something? It was just a collective feeling me and my family had... :huh: I don't think they would do that on Grey's, but still, it felt like it.

Caddie_Is_Love - May 23, 2008 06:29 PM (GMT)
Yippie
Ki
Fucking
YAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last night was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mother did NOT watch it with me, so I was free to react/comment as I pleased :) I swear, the pillow I was holding (the ENTIRE time) is all flat in the middle from having my arms squeezing the crap out of it :D

I absolutely LOVED everyone in this episode. We saw a side of Alex that we don't see. EVER. His emotions were shocking and made me feel for him. He and Meredith are probably the most dark and twisty characters on the show, I've decided :)

George and Lexie- HILARIOUS. "Remember how I said I'm not a thief? Well, I think I am." :rofl: Lexie is growing on me, and George is slowly, SLOWLY doing the same :) Jen, George has BEEN a man-whore ever since he slept with Izzie while married to Callie :) How awesome is it, though, that he gets to retake his exam?!

Cement Boy- DAMN. I was hoping and HOPING he would live, but I didn't expect him to! The girl he liked too… whoa. Everything Callie said to her (Might I add, she doesn't take no crap from NO ONE! Kudos to her!) was directly referring to her and Erica. I think, in dealing with her, she came to the realization that Mark might have been right about her feelings. I was SO HAPPY that he lived!

Lucky 13! Anyone else notice that the 13th clinical trial patient was the first to LIVE?! :o "I've never gotten a patient LAID before." :rofl:

Message for Alex Karev: DON'T LEAVE CRAZY PEOPLE ALONE WITH BIG KNIVES!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, that first scene with Callie and Sloan made me go "Oh CRAP. I'm never going to be able to watch this again," but that was IT :blink:

And now, Maggie's favorite part…

THE KISSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

Alex and Izzie- Saw it coming.

Chief and Adele- Awwwww :)

George and Lexie- Was this an ACTUAL kiss? I think she likes himmmmmm!!!!!!!!! :D

CALLIE AND ERICA- OH MY JESUS. When she went up to Erica… I melted. She… there aren't any words to describe the beauty of it. That scene has been playing and playing in my head all day :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: I seriously can't find WORDS for it!!!!!!

Mactilda - May 23, 2008 06:40 PM (GMT)
The ONLY reason I'm feeling ok with the kiss right now is b/c I knew it made Maggie happy :)
(The chemestri Shonda and others are talking about - I can not see it.)

Caddie_Is_Love - May 23, 2008 06:47 PM (GMT)
LOL :) It made Maggie more than happy… It made Maggie ECSTATIC! :P

I definitely see chemistry. When Callie looked at Erica at the end of the episode, her eyes were dancing and sparkling. And when Erica saw Callie at the BEGINNING, she perked right up :)

Mactilda - May 23, 2008 07:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Caddie_Is_Love @ May 23 2008, 08:47 PM)
LOL :) It made Maggie more than happy… It made Maggie ECSTATIC! :P

I definitely see chemistry. When Callie looked at Erica at the end of the episode, her eyes were dancing and sparkling. And when Erica saw Callie at the BEGINNING, she perked right up :)

That I can see, but it seems like actors-chemistry - if you know what I mean.... Not like actual chemestry....
It's not "magical", it's just them doing their job. Well for me OBVIOUSLY it's magical for you :)

Caddie_Is_Love - May 23, 2008 09:36 PM (GMT)
I say it's magic :P



McBored - May 24, 2008 03:34 AM (GMT)
I thinkingg George is more of a manwhore for me now because he was supposed to have loved Izzie, thats why he was supposed to have left. But they break up and now he's prbly gonna get with Lexie, the sister of a girl he's already slept with...Seriously!! He's gotten with Izzie, Callie, Meredith, Olivia, and now maybe Lexie?

In the words of Addison herself:

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joshgalassi23 - May 24, 2008 03:56 AM (GMT)
Seriously! Who else is there for him to sleep with??? Unless its Cristina...weird.

Cait - May 24, 2008 06:26 AM (GMT)
0.0

Or Alex. Yeah! Maybe George will save Alex from his destitute-ness. Oooo. LMAO.

Prediction for Season 5: Ava/Rebecca will get better and come between Izzie and Alex again because he feels he is responsible for her. OoOoo. Ok probably not but you know. It's not like everyone we see together right now will be together at the end of season 5. (Make me eat my words, Shonda... I dare you.)

Mactilda - May 24, 2008 07:33 AM (GMT)
Well since Ms Reese is in a new pilot for som show I guess her hopes are that she just dissapears....

George the man whore..... Well - he could need some therapy... and yes. He was supposed to love Izzie... if not.... he was suypposed to have a nice divorce with Callie (ie working kinks out even without the intention to get back together).
But the sex... I guess it's surprising to him that he hav that ability....
If There is going to be man/man-action involoving George I would've liked the George/Alex idea..... More George and Mark though :) They're my men :) (But I somehow have a hard time trying to picture it....)

Cait - May 24, 2008 08:31 AM (GMT)
George and Alex I could totally go for. LMAO Although Mark and Alex... mmmmmmm.

Mactilda - May 24, 2008 09:45 AM (GMT)
Mark and Alex..... now you're talking :)
(the girl/girl I would've prefered instead of Callie/Hahn is: Callie/Cristina, Mer/Cristina and belive it or not I read a wonderful femslash fanfic with Callie and Izzie and it made TOTALY sense :) If I could I would've loved Caddie....)

Cait - May 24, 2008 09:56 AM (GMT)
I read a Callie/Izzie one too and it sort of blew me out of the water. LOL!

Mer/Cristina would totally rock. Mwahahhaaa!

You know what? I realized two things:

2nd and 3rd season we left off with different character's lives in shambles... 2nd being Izzie's, 3rd being Cristina's (and everyone, really...) and now 4th season... Ol' Alex's turn to be a complete mess.

The other thing I realized was... While Derek and Meredith have tried to figure out their true love for one another or whatever, we've seen 2 characters come in and out and really get the hugely raw end of the deal: Finn and Rose. I vote Finn and Rose come together. And Addison but she was far more complicated in her situation than either of those two, plus she was a main character and not a "recurring role".

Mactilda - May 24, 2008 10:37 AM (GMT)
Finn :) I love Finn..... They would be great together.

Cait - May 24, 2008 10:57 AM (GMT)
I always thought Izzie and Finn were like MADE for each other. The losing a significant other thing, the cooking, the optimism. Finn was like the male version of Izzie if she had never become a doctor, LMAO.

Mactilda - May 24, 2008 11:19 AM (GMT)
That's what I've always said!!!
He's warm and kind and a great guy. He would've been a GREAT man for Iz.

Caddie_Is_Love - May 24, 2008 12:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cait @ May 24 2008, 03:31 AM)
George and Alex I could totally go for.

:rofl: That would be GREAT!

I definitely say Mer and Cristina should be a pair. Mer/Cristina, Derek/Mark, and George/Alex :P

inmymcdreams - May 24, 2008 03:07 PM (GMT)
HAHA George and Alex. "Let's get past our differences man. y'know I liked it when you punched me."

Derek and Mark = my OTP! :D

joshgalassi23 - May 24, 2008 04:04 PM (GMT)
LMAO WOW GUYS.

Pretty sure George is gonna have to go swinging for the other team soon too if he plans on keeping up his reputation of being a little man-whore.

Also, I've never thought about Izzie and Fin. But now that I do, they really WOULD have made a sweet couple.

I hope they keep Rose around in season 5. It'd be dumb if all that her character was meant for was to be a love interest. Maybe she can be a guest star or something...

Cait - May 24, 2008 08:16 PM (GMT)
I remember when we all hated Rose. *shakes head* I feel bad now.

McBored - May 25, 2008 01:45 AM (GMT)
I feel more for Finn because Rose knew the whole Meredith/Derek thing beforehand. Finn had no idea. all he saw was a girl who wasn't married to the dog's co owner. Until she went and slept with Derek again of course.

Two things:

-I can' stop looking at that Addison manwhore avatar. how she says it is just plain funny.
-I found it weird how Bailey said Callie was acting weird in the eppy. Especially the word weird. Out of character i think.

Cait - May 25, 2008 02:55 AM (GMT)
Yeah, Finn gets far more love than Rose. Finn was great. Really great!

Ha ha, I love the avatar too. Kate Walsh is the master of faces.

OMG I noticed the "weird" thing too... A little OOC, yes...

joshgalassi23 - May 25, 2008 08:34 AM (GMT)
I just rewatched the finale and forgot how much I loved the two tumor patient lovers. They were sooooooooo just AWWWWWW.




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